tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post7041660703092889786..comments2024-03-26T00:14:00.509-07:00Comments on Crunchy Chicken: Peak Oil - instinctual reactionsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-68737888829648438192008-08-02T07:14:00.000-07:002008-08-02T07:14:00.000-07:00As a male, I am glad to stumble upon this blog to ...As a male, I am glad to stumble upon this blog to balance out my heavy diet of male-authored PO media. Gender differences in awareness/response to PO are real. There are some gun-toting peakists out there - but as Heinberg says, "You've gotta sleep sometime". I think a "lifeboats" strategy will be more viable than a "bunker" strategy.<BR/><BR/>IMO, women tend to respond more to personal stories Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-9976804302190902632008-07-31T21:13:00.000-07:002008-07-31T21:13:00.000-07:00I'll tell you- I have never been one to be influen...I'll tell you- I have never been one to be influenced by my gender. Maybe thats because my gender is the root of so many problems today. Nor am I a nesting pregnant female. A lot of the things I do I do because I like them. I learnedd to make Jam because I like homemade jam. And I don't see any other way to get it. I sew buttons on my shirts and actually hem my own pants (albeit not with any Robj98168https://www.blogger.com/profile/12449968557883132353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-57167790070597447492008-07-22T15:12:00.000-07:002008-07-22T15:12:00.000-07:00Oops. No edit function. 2nd paragraph should have ...Oops. No edit function. 2nd paragraph should have been last.Step Backhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06178091823442339760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-69118158904869433232008-07-22T15:10:00.000-07:002008-07-22T15:10:00.000-07:00Chris,That is an excellent analogy. Both the man a...Chris,<BR/><BR/>That is an excellent analogy. Both the man and the woman are choosing a "tool" by which to deal with the perceived problem. The man may choose a rock or a stick as his "tool". The woman is creating a social circle as her "tool". If the bear is a grizzly, neither of these tools will be effective.<BR/><BR/>Same with oil. Unless there is an infrastructure in place of sufficient Step Backhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06178091823442339760noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-51550986583332391032008-07-22T11:39:00.000-07:002008-07-22T11:39:00.000-07:00I have noticed and pondered the sharp gender diffe...I have noticed and pondered the sharp gender differences in response to peak oil as well. Here's how I see it. <BR/><BR/>Scenario: A man, a woman and their child are walking through the forest. Suddenly a bear jumps in their path and roars at them. What do they do? <BR/><BR/>You know what they do, without a moment of forethought: The man looks for a weapon and a way to confront the threat. The Chris Nelderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07054816737532285895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-20065984909239256382008-07-21T12:14:00.000-07:002008-07-21T12:14:00.000-07:00Yes, you're right, there's a great deal of men out...Yes, you're right, there's a great deal of men out there writing blogs talking about peak oil, and 'going all rambo' etc. There's a lot of them that very much do feel like they're _looking forward_ to the idea of societal collapse. <BR/><BR/>But they are a very small number of men. Not a representative sample. <BR/><BR/>It's like how the vast majority of violent crimes are committed by men. But Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-49903324974558675762008-07-19T21:43:00.000-07:002008-07-19T21:43:00.000-07:00CC said: "ccpo - I was hoping to get people's gene...CC said: "ccpo - I was hoping to get people's general impressions on gender-based reactions to PO without going into the gory details. I'll be torturing everyone with many posts on that later."<BR/><BR/>Well, I did that, didn't I? :) And, to paraphrase, we have not yet begun to get into detail!<BR/><BR/>""PO and Climate Change can end our civilization. Will it? Don't know. But either has the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-1692781924761100632008-07-19T14:33:00.000-07:002008-07-19T14:33:00.000-07:00My only opinion (mostly because I am pretty uninfo...My only opinion (mostly because I am pretty uninformed on this topic) is NEVER lay off the rum cache!!!mudnessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10542400857346376155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-33139493123394972112008-07-19T11:29:00.000-07:002008-07-19T11:29:00.000-07:00Crunchy Chicken,Here is a good solution to peak oi...Crunchy Chicken,<BR/><BR/>Here is a good solution to peak oil when it comes to transportation -- The Surrey Bike. http://www.surreycompany.com/products.htm<BR/><BR/>AveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-73955800842106913242008-07-19T09:09:00.000-07:002008-07-19T09:09:00.000-07:00ccpo - I was hoping to get people's general impres...ccpo - I was hoping to get people's general impressions on gender-based reactions to PO without going into the gory details. I'll be torturing everyone with many posts on that later.<BR/><BR/>And, no, definitely not all men are reacting with a guns and ammo attitude (as you can see from several comments by men here). Just some of the more vocal ones.<BR/><BR/>I don't have as bleak an outlook on Crunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-14765052534390328252008-07-19T07:52:00.000-07:002008-07-19T07:52:00.000-07:00I didn't read all the comments because I had read ...I didn't read all the comments because I had read so many and not one addressed PO in any way that was meaningful. I realize the question was why men and women deal with it differently, but how do you address that without addressing what "it" is? It's impossible, in fact.<BR/><BR/>A few people stated opinions about PO, but not one offered any reason why, and certainly there was no support of Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-52190521559155725112008-07-18T20:49:00.000-07:002008-07-18T20:49:00.000-07:00Most of what I know about peak oil comes from Kuns...Most of what I know about peak oil comes from Kunstler, so I found that link on Y2K very educational. ;-) Thanks, Crunchy. That said, I tend towards the gloom scenario. It may not happen as soon as people think, but I think the best case scenario is that it's going to be a rough ride, and I'm not sure personal stockpiling is going to help much. We're all on this planet together.Donnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08896172914500564208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-24989422463316546542008-07-18T12:57:00.000-07:002008-07-18T12:57:00.000-07:00This post rocked my world...am glad I checked in a...This post rocked my world...am glad I checked in at Sharon's today and scrolled down the page a bit.<BR/><BR/>The gender aspect in peak oil discourse? Hmmmm...well, over-generalizations can be problematic...but I'm inclined to think there may be some "there" there. Hmmm...thanks for the perspective--never noticed it before, but it clicks. It'll be rattling in my head for days and days...<BR/><BR/Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01440306286962105757noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-14727457365524228212008-07-18T11:27:00.000-07:002008-07-18T11:27:00.000-07:00Yesterday a drug dealer ran through our neighborho...Yesterday a drug dealer ran through our neighborhood. Literally. My next door neighbor and his daughter were sitting on their front stoop while the children played and all of a sudden someone comes tearing out of the back yard, runs across the street and into the neighbor's yard and beyond. We soon learned the full story and the kids spread the news to other neighbors in fearful excitement. We Jenniferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308684878865888128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-59412406654766956982008-07-18T09:12:00.000-07:002008-07-18T09:12:00.000-07:00Crunchy, there are problems with the thin film sol...Crunchy, there are problems with the thin film solar options. It pertains to a correction to one thing I stated before - it's not precious metals that are needed in thin film, it's rare earth elements. When my research is done, I'll be posting about this. :)Chilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406176434011890590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-88546796547475818872008-07-18T08:13:00.000-07:002008-07-18T08:13:00.000-07:00Oldnovice -- I love the names for the categories i...Oldnovice -- I love the names for the categories in Exit Mundi! I don't really want to read most of them, but wow...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-76759499122386636172008-07-18T06:54:00.000-07:002008-07-18T06:54:00.000-07:00Holy balls, that link you posted on Kunstler's tak...<I>Holy balls, that link you posted on Kunstler's take on Y2K is friggin' heeelarious!<BR/><BR/>Apparently, certain theatre majors don't understand how 'puters operate.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, substitute Y2K with "Peak Oil" in his article and it's oddly similar to his latest rantings.<BR/><BR/>Prophet or profit? </I><BR/><BR/>I saw a FEW profit financially through book sales and survival gear, but most Oldnovicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17714134603537886606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-22302763164518316602008-07-18T00:09:00.000-07:002008-07-18T00:09:00.000-07:00Old Novice - Holy balls, that link you posted on K...Old Novice - Holy balls, that <A HREF="http://www.kunstler.com/mags_y2k.html" REL="nofollow">link</A> you posted on Kunstler's take on Y2K is friggin' heeelarious!<BR/><BR/>Apparently, certain theatre majors don't understand how 'puters operate.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, substitute Y2K with "Peak Oil" in his article and it's oddly similar to his <A HREF="http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/" REL="Crunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-78302828805770800042008-07-17T23:56:00.000-07:002008-07-17T23:56:00.000-07:00Thistle - I sent you an email.Rob - Funny how your...Thistle - I sent you an email.<BR/><BR/>Rob - Funny how your only comment in yesterday's post was all about having to come up here and shoot up us Ballardites. Interesting passivism.<BR/><BR/>Arduous - I'll get a book list going that doesn't forecast death and destruction, but still covers the nitty-gritty.<BR/><BR/>Chile - Get a grip woman! Think thin film solar rather than PV. And maybe 2 shotsCrunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-58082202043620125092008-07-17T19:59:00.000-07:002008-07-17T19:59:00.000-07:00I used to be made fun of and called the "Prophetes...I used to be made fun of and called the "Prophetess of Doom and Gloom" because I used to warn various friends and family (in the 1990's no less) to be prepared for Earth Changes (now called Climate Change). I've seen visions of it in my dreams/meditations a lot for many years. While PO is part of that, it's not what's really going to ruin people's lives as you can see even from just the Iowa Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-51770313364283293122008-07-17T18:44:00.000-07:002008-07-17T18:44:00.000-07:00Hmmm, on thought I could put my musings more brief...Hmmm, on thought I could put my musings more briefly:<BR/><BR/><I>There is no doubt we'll come out alright through peak oil, climate change or anything else: the only question is how much misery and chaos we have while the change is happening.</I>Hanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-81466636167060375372008-07-17T18:40:00.000-07:002008-07-17T18:40:00.000-07:00"Of the women writing about Peak Oil, the predicti...<I>"Of the women writing about Peak Oil, the predictions are much more metered."</I><BR/><BR/>Uh-oh, I thought I was a boy. I guess, <A HREF="http://greenwithagun.blogspot.com/2008/02/peak-oil-mad-max-and-me.html" REL="nofollow">going from my take on peak oil</A>, I must have been wrong. ;)<BR/><BR/>Your generalisation is a good one, though, CC. There's a lot of macho wanking around, from theHanley Tuckshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13047638048463160737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-76257184999303933502008-07-17T17:12:00.000-07:002008-07-17T17:12:00.000-07:00I have been drifting more towards the doom 'n gloo...I have been drifting more towards the doom 'n gloom camp but it's not just because of peak oil issues. If peak oil was the only problem, I think humanity could deal. <BR/><BR/>But, we've also got climate change upon us, exacerbated by burning up all that oil that's now got us into peak oil. If we <I>just</I> had climate change, yep, we could probably deal with that. <BR/><BR/>But wait, Chilehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11406176434011890590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-70685541854898592382008-07-17T16:13:00.000-07:002008-07-17T16:13:00.000-07:00Hey, Crunchicita, could you also point us in the d...Hey, Crunchicita, could you also point us in the direction of books on peak oil? Preferably ones that don't take place in Camp TEOTWAWKI, because then I will get angry, and stop reading even if there is good stuff in there. I am arduous like that.ruchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17043512641324366469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-20268504944751114682008-07-17T16:02:00.000-07:002008-07-17T16:02:00.000-07:00Oh, I forgot to add one more thing: the term peak...Oh, I forgot to add one more thing: the term peak oil. Back in the 80s and early 90s in college, we talked a lot about oil depletion and the effects that will have on the world. But when my husband started talking about peak oil, it sounded like an elitist term. 'Oh, you don't know about peak oil? Well, let me enlighten you.' Or, 'ha - so-and-so politician just said oil depletion but he Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com