tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post6413438253628682447..comments2024-03-26T00:14:00.509-07:00Comments on Crunchy Chicken: The deal with dishwashersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-71623608611839303612009-05-10T22:12:00.000-07:002009-05-10T22:12:00.000-07:00OMG...Water falls from the sky. I feel dumber for ...OMG...Water falls from the sky. I feel dumber for having read all of the posts on this site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-25362797084062564572007-10-04T15:42:00.000-07:002007-10-04T15:42:00.000-07:00The dishwasher might use less WATER than hand wash...The dishwasher might use less WATER than hand washing if someone uses copious amounts of water (I don't). The study which is usually cited was not peer-reviewed and assumed people used a lot of water.<BR/><BR/>Regardless, this doesn’t factor in the energy and water used in mining the metals, getting the metals to the factory, pollution caused by the factory (differs across countries), energy Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-9076294589051913342007-05-23T17:02:00.000-07:002007-05-23T17:02:00.000-07:00It depends on which electric dishwasher one uses. ...It depends on which electric dishwasher one uses. Rarely will one see mainstream data on www.askousa.com but it's out there.Isle Dancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04755103029114698264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-20091269133974104582007-05-17T19:14:00.000-07:002007-05-17T19:14:00.000-07:00Thanks for all your comments everyone. I guess it ...Thanks for all your comments everyone. I guess it really depends on how strict a hand-washer you are. If you're my husband, then you'll blow through the entire hot water tank washing just the pots and pans. I think it's difficult to really minimize water usage when you're cooking three times a day for four people. <BR/><BR/>As for the gmpickets out there, the dishwasher would be a huge waste of Crunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-88963733684804441252007-05-17T13:28:00.000-07:002007-05-17T13:28:00.000-07:00First time visiting your site. Interesting bit on...First time visiting your site. Interesting bit on the dishwashers.<BR/>I'll be nabbing your Low-Impact week to post on my blog. Currently, we do most everything on that list, but I'm always thinking of new things.<BR/><BR/>I noticed your own list - oh yeah! Diva cup - THAT's what I'll do! Anyway, I wondered if you'd considered cloth instead of even 100% recycled TP. It's really not a big dealCreative Life Studiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14306288585957249405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-19584280731336203992007-05-16T08:34:00.000-07:002007-05-16T08:34:00.000-07:00Your study says that modern dishwashers use 10 gal...Your study says that modern dishwashers use 10 gallons (almost 38 liters!!!) of water per cycle. No way do I use that much water hand-washing dishes in an entire week! I wipe off (and maybe quick rinse) and re-use everything during the week. When I do hand-wash dishes at the end of the week, there isn't much to wash and I put a liter of water in a pot rather than filling the entire sink.gmpickethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02596897353480818840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-8235982683890751332007-05-15T16:29:00.000-07:002007-05-15T16:29:00.000-07:00well if you live in the woods you can just serve d...well if you live in the woods you can just serve dinner on a large leaf and skip the wash cycle altogether and go right to recycleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-18622988430247239712007-05-15T14:56:00.000-07:002007-05-15T14:56:00.000-07:00A little story...an old man has his grandson over ...A little story...<BR/>an old man has his grandson over for for the day. They enjoy eggs for breakfast and then, after the old man brings the dishes into the kitchen, they go out for a walk. later at Lunch the young man swears he sees some egg stuck to the edge of his plate. He asks if the dishes are clean. The granpa replies "clean as cold water can get 'em!". Not wanting to be picky, the P~https://www.blogger.com/profile/13403847624491620709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-22740616733342414632007-05-15T14:26:00.000-07:002007-05-15T14:26:00.000-07:00I only discovered your blog two days ago and am re...I only discovered your blog two days ago and am really enjoying it. My dishwasher broke four years ago. I decided at that time to replace it with shelves for my cookbooks. I have not missed it one bit. I do not feel that I waste much water by doing dishes by hand as I am very careful about how much water I use. But, I have noticed a few things which I have not seen mentioned by anyone yet, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-21989957932300411502007-05-15T13:15:00.000-07:002007-05-15T13:15:00.000-07:00Recently I simplified our kitchen. There are 4 of...Recently I simplified our kitchen. There are 4 of us in our family and we all now have 1 plate, 1 bowl and 1 glass/cup a piece. Same with silverware. We don't have a dishwasher and I was just getting so tired of all the dishes. Now I get them done in a flash! Not only that but it's easier for the girls to help. They can be in charge of their own dishes. We also use cloth napkins to eat offvwsistahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00767085494914347049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-53814983341139537972007-05-15T12:02:00.000-07:002007-05-15T12:02:00.000-07:00I've often wondered about this. My old roommate ha...I've often wondered about this. My old roommate has worked on trails in the national park system for most of his life and so knows how to live on very few resources. He washed dishes by hand in a small sink with just a couple inches of water in the bottom. Then a quick sterilizing rinse. No running water, no sinks full of water. He probably used less than two gallons of water total to clean up a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-41514449385301737942007-05-15T11:51:00.000-07:002007-05-15T11:51:00.000-07:00This can be a very contentious issue, with those w...This can be a very contentious issue, with those who wash by hand feeling they're more careful than the average study participant, and those with dishwashers feeling vindicated that machines are the answer.<BR/><BR/>The answer, as my dad likes to say is "Six of one, half a dozen of the other".<BR/><BR/>We've always washed our dishes by hand, mostly because we don't have a dishwasher, but also Lizhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18050568652179207175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-30190510011008774022007-05-15T10:03:00.000-07:002007-05-15T10:03:00.000-07:00Crunchy, thanks. I find that running a full dishw...Crunchy, thanks. I find that running a full dishwasher is much more effective than hand washing (and it's easier on my hands, too!). In addition to using the air dry option, I also have been experimenting with the shortest cycles ("Quick Wash," or "Light/China", instead of "Normal"). I find that if I just wipe off the dishes first--just scrape the remains off, no rinsing with water-- the DW Sallyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08602132158521215360noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-61154635407394280822007-05-15T09:49:00.000-07:002007-05-15T09:49:00.000-07:00A few things we do to cut down on running the dish...A few things we do to cut down on running the dishwasher as often:<BR/>1-Use the correct size dish for the job. We realized we were often using our large dinner plates or bowls when a salad plate or smaller bowl fit fine. Same with pans and serving bowls<BR/>Just doing this has cut a couple loads a week. One thing to note- we have one of those smaller size dishwashers so we can do this. If we Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-69482941882407846452007-05-15T09:25:00.000-07:002007-05-15T09:25:00.000-07:00My wife will be very glad to hear this, I think ha...My wife will be very glad to hear this, I think handwashing would have been a deal breaker for her.<BR/>;-)P~https://www.blogger.com/profile/13403847624491620709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-50049014961610771552007-05-15T08:26:00.000-07:002007-05-15T08:26:00.000-07:00Crunchy - I currently wash dishes by hand, and let...Crunchy - I currently wash dishes by hand, and let me tell you, I have no problem believing that a machine is more efficient. I have to keep hot water in the sink while I am cooking to wash as I go, and that only lasts so long. Then I have to drain and add more hot H20. Even if I only fill the sink halfway or less, I think doing a FULL load on the "water miser" setting with no heat has to beat QThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15544956727530046973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-9176049723478616662007-05-15T08:18:00.000-07:002007-05-15T08:18:00.000-07:00Crunchy,What if you don't throw out the water used...Crunchy,<BR/>What if you don't throw out the water used to wash and rinse the dishes? <BR/><BR/>We save it, run it through cheesecloth (to catch the nasties), and then use it for the flowers, the garden, and even the fruit trees.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18346647849587719149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-76202300766070759902007-05-15T07:15:00.000-07:002007-05-15T07:15:00.000-07:00Crunchy, Thanks for clearing this up! I have ofte...Crunchy, Thanks for clearing this up! I have often wondered about dishwashers versus hand-washing. It's amazing that we've actually created a machine that is more efficient than people (it's usually the other way around!). So, here's to responsibly-used dishwashers.oopuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15012092849288557716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-5249447374347225752007-05-15T06:29:00.000-07:002007-05-15T06:29:00.000-07:00That dishwasher study was the center of a lengthy ...That dishwasher study was the center of a lengthy debate over at Casaubon's Book not too long ago (http://casaubonsbook.blogspot.com/2007/05/52-weeks-down-week-2-turning-things-off.html). The gist of it was that the dishwashers they used are much different from American models and that the hand-washers were not using very conservative methods (running the water full-blash the whole time, etc). Ananda Devikahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00691247953779020400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-62044514027042106232007-05-15T03:39:00.000-07:002007-05-15T03:39:00.000-07:00One minor point brought up elsewhere - if you know...One minor point brought up <A HREF="http://groovygreen.com/groove/?p=1097" REL="nofollow">elsewhere</A> - if you know you have to wash dishes by hand, you may be more mindful of how many dishes you dirty. And fewer dishes used = fewer dishes washed = less water & soap. <BR/><BR/>But then, you can be mindful and use fewer dishes with a dishwasher too. The incentive just isn't quite the same...e4https://www.blogger.com/profile/13435927076587347401noreply@blogger.com