tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post3849947333213681651..comments2024-02-29T00:07:19.080-08:00Comments on Crunchy Chicken: Disposable bag fee fails miserablyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-43508691366763728272009-08-25T13:52:44.717-07:002009-08-25T13:52:44.717-07:00This takes me aback somewhat, as I have been using...This takes me aback somewhat, as I have been using cloth bags for as long as I can remember and I don't really see what the big deal is. <br /><br />There used to be an independent store near me that deducted 5 cents for each reusable bag used from the total, which I always appreciated - when it sold out to a chain, the chain stopped the policy. :(<br /><br />There is another grocery chain Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-8571493713814766532009-08-22T08:35:55.134-07:002009-08-22T08:35:55.134-07:00So sad and so frustrating.So sad and so frustrating.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06308330913650950756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-29587042620500967702009-08-21T12:09:12.903-07:002009-08-21T12:09:12.903-07:00Personally, I shop at Aldi most of the time. I kno...Personally, I shop at Aldi most of the time. I know they aren't the "greenest" but they save us a lot of money that we simply don't have. The thing is, they have a STORE policy of charging for bags (and "renting" carts with a quarter). We bring our own, but you don't go there expecting free bags, and they don't bag it for you either. Actually, I prefer it that Abbyhttp://betweenbabies.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-89564234489876679002009-08-21T10:15:06.745-07:002009-08-21T10:15:06.745-07:00The fact that we couldn't pass this OPTIONAL t...The fact that we couldn't pass this OPTIONAL tax that would make such a big impact in eliminating waste infuriates and depresses me to no end. The sense of entitlement, greed and laziness of citizens can be really discouraging. Many seattle citizens use reusable bags, but the reality is, many also do not. Perhaps those that don't reuse have good intentions (i.e. just forget), but I'm Justinenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-70037366597816269712009-08-20T13:28:07.234-07:002009-08-20T13:28:07.234-07:00Here where I live (Canada), we don't get to vo...Here where I live (Canada), we don't get to vote on this stuff. Supermarkets just slap a surcharge on plastic bags (usually 5 cents)whether people like it or not. I live in Atlantic Canada and it is rare to see anyone who is NOT carrying their own cloth bags - some of mine are 20 years old!! But - we have been refusing, reusing, recycling and composting for a long time now. My oldest kid is Oliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12535709771684332389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-21255140296299006332009-08-20T07:34:04.185-07:002009-08-20T07:34:04.185-07:00RE: Camelama & Elizabeth B on BioBags...
I do...RE: Camelama & Elizabeth B on BioBags...<br /><br />I don't think the decision to use or not use BioBags is that easy. Yes, it is true that when BioBags go into a capped landfill they are in an anaerobic environment and do produce methane. But this is true of all organic material that goes into a landfill. The situation changes, however, if that capped landfill has a methane-capture cpcablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613763468298831975noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-42397089647108298062009-08-20T06:46:14.819-07:002009-08-20T06:46:14.819-07:00That does sound frustrating--and while I can see w...That does sound frustrating--and while I can see why adding another tax seems extreme, I do think people who look at the green movement as some hippie-crunchy waste of time need some incentive. Our grocery chain, Wegman's, sells reusable bags at the entrance and the check-out counters for $1. I've bought one twice when I forgot a bag; I figure it'll more than pay for itself. I'die Frauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14269442912640747892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-18011499088278007742009-08-20T04:57:55.625-07:002009-08-20T04:57:55.625-07:00When I lived in VA one grocer I shopped at was Sho...When I lived in VA one grocer I shopped at was Shoppers Food Warehouse. At SFW if you didn't bring a bag with you it was 15 cents per bag. They also sold these awesome strong tough tough cardboard boxes. <br />This was 15 years ago. I bet they still don't give out bagsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-52588665954093090772009-08-20T03:15:07.382-07:002009-08-20T03:15:07.382-07:00I think the majority of people need some encourage...I think the majority of people need some encouragement to take up reusable bag use. We had a new supermarket open up here, and they used the opening to promote reusable bag use - all groceries purchased in the first week of business were packed in reusable bags for free.<br /><br />No one coming out of the supermarket that first week had a plastic bag. Now 3 years later, you still don't seeToriahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01091419616292144494noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-80925690103339462732009-08-19T23:22:20.073-07:002009-08-19T23:22:20.073-07:00Camelama, I'm sorry to tell you that BioBags a...Camelama, I'm sorry to tell you that BioBags actually are not a good choice for things going into the landfill. Beth over at Fake Plastic Fish has learned that when BioBags break down in the anaerobic conditions found in landfills, they produce a lot of methane. I was super bummed when I found this out, because BioBags just seemed like the answer to my prayers. They're great for Elizabeth Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17327405207894728455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-80830223713177290012009-08-19T22:41:10.236-07:002009-08-19T22:41:10.236-07:00Wow. That's downright shocking. Not to menti...Wow. That's downright shocking. Not to mention depressing.Green Beanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03133847111288382381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-84065935694923250752009-08-19T19:00:54.270-07:002009-08-19T19:00:54.270-07:00I thought it was kinda weird that the government w...I thought it was kinda weird that the government was playing a part. here individual stores are charging 10 cents to buy bags.... so it's up to the companies. Saves them money on giving out "free" bags and forces people to evaluate just how many bags they have to buy for their groceries, on average less than if they didn't have to decide on a number.<br /><br />we bring our own Eco Yoginihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10693080137196812405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-19493356312015774202009-08-19T18:49:42.765-07:002009-08-19T18:49:42.765-07:00I totally agree with you on this one. I'm sorr...I totally agree with you on this one. I'm sorry it didn't pass. I have gotten into the habit of carrying my bags with me, but I don't see too many other people using them. It's kind of sad that something so simple seems to be "too much trouble" for so many people.Melissa Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15039757879378185050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-27914320671968848622009-08-19T17:14:08.433-07:002009-08-19T17:14:08.433-07:00That is sad. I live in South Australia and this s...That is sad. I live in South Australia and this state has recently gone plastic bag free (well almost lol). The thin style grocery bags have been banned. Grocery stores now have compostable plastic bags available at 10 cents a bag. Some grocery stores sell the thicker style plastic bags at 15 cents a bag or you can get the reusable ones which vary in price.<br /><br />It has been accepted OurGangof7https://www.blogger.com/profile/11112909755671690941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-63771166389796185272009-08-19T14:38:11.607-07:002009-08-19T14:38:11.607-07:00I wish the stores would do more to promote reusabl...I wish the stores would do more to promote reusable bags - as we all know, people will react better to positive reinforcement. I have noticed that those stores with five cent per bag refunds see much more reusable bag usage than those that don't. Maybe up it to 10 cents? Or get local governments to do something to get more stores in on the program.Kristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14421150270049125967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-17962467317500528622009-08-19T14:37:24.793-07:002009-08-19T14:37:24.793-07:00It is really sad. As Greenpa said, nobody is voti...It is really sad. As Greenpa said, nobody is voting to enact a tax of any kind. We need to find another way, because people do not see it as a major issue. These plastic bags are so ubiquitous that nobody even thinks of it. I actually had a bagger today pack up my groceries in my reusable bags and then pull a purchase out of my cart(that I had put there, not needing a bag) and put it in a bagThe Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15070310346205563561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-26138539863430860122009-08-19T13:36:14.846-07:002009-08-19T13:36:14.846-07:00I'm just a big softy, I suppose, but I think i...I'm just a big softy, I suppose, but I think it may not be stinkiness on the part of people- but quite a few who are just so broke that 20¢ now sounds like more than they can afford.<br /><br />Really. Some folks are that broke already, and it's getting worse. I'm afraid it means similar votes for other conservation measures too- we're already cutting cops and teachers- so...<brGreenpahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17224906349154302210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-87197384714855920742009-08-19T13:26:18.693-07:002009-08-19T13:26:18.693-07:00Amy in Tacoma - I've heard that too, and I poi...Amy in Tacoma - I've heard that too, and I point out to those folks that you can purchase bio-degradable bags for these tasks. In fact, I use bio bags for everything now except freezer use. Trash bags, pet stuff, yardwaste/foodscraps, etc.<br /><br />And from bio bag scraps (bits left over from processing, bio ties I don't use to close the bags, etc), I'm knitting together even more camelamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15047366798106484542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-59385865827896582212009-08-19T13:12:29.619-07:002009-08-19T13:12:29.619-07:00why should we pay people to bring their own bag? ...why should we pay people to bring their own bag? I mean what did our pioneer grammas do? They toted their own stinking basket to put purchases in - stuff they couldn't grow themselves.<br /><br />If Seattle can't pass it the rest of the country is doomed.....<br /><br />I weep with you Crunch - I weep for the turtles and birds and out kids who will grow up thinking that they deserve Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-77933399451686628992009-08-19T13:06:10.745-07:002009-08-19T13:06:10.745-07:00While I do feel a bit digusted that people seem to...While I do feel a bit digusted that people seem to need to be babysat on these issues, the fact of the matter that financial incentive is a great motivator for people (who either really are or perceive themselves to be) too busy to get around to that whole "reusable bag thing". Yes, it would be great if everyone would just do the right thing, and many people have good intentions but Michellehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12908345188374273733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-9710560244060731422009-08-19T12:48:14.225-07:002009-08-19T12:48:14.225-07:00I don't think it was passable- the plastic ind...I don't think it was passable- the plastic industry put too much money in the campaign. But I think Seattle will revisit the issue, if past experience is any clue.Robj98168https://www.blogger.com/profile/12449968557883132353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-38721390097530430462009-08-19T12:47:10.112-07:002009-08-19T12:47:10.112-07:00I posted this a few minutes ago on the other post,...I posted this a few minutes ago on the other post, but figured it might as well go here instead! So sorry for the double post.<br /><br />Our local Kroger takes 5 cents off for each bag you bring in. The 5 cents then goes into a fund and if someone comes in without a bag they are given one. It works really well and I am starting to see a lot of people using the bags.<br /><br />I've been Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-10444487116764596452009-08-19T12:34:20.477-07:002009-08-19T12:34:20.477-07:00I'm sorry. That's frustrating. I figured g...I'm sorry. That's frustrating. I figured getting something like that passed in Seattle would be a no-brainer. I guess we all have some work to do...hmdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13424022504830645523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-90197081088513486292009-08-19T12:20:46.341-07:002009-08-19T12:20:46.341-07:00Gods, that's pathetic. I can get behind the &...Gods, that's pathetic. I can get behind the "stop babysitting me" mentality, all the way up until it becomes obvious that people *need* babysitting. Honestly, how many years will it take to get even a significant fraction of the population to use reusable bags? It's pretty clear that most of the population won't even make that trivial-level change on their own, much less Robyn M.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08885081377174592304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-41364337632780357672009-08-19T12:17:46.628-07:002009-08-19T12:17:46.628-07:00I thought about one of the comments left yesterday...I thought about one of the comments left yesterday: that without grocery store plastic bags, people will need to buy more plastic bags for things like garbage, dog poop, etc. <br /><br />Is that the case? I was thinking about how my household generates plastic bags regularly even while using reusable bags at the store. We accumulate bags from loaves of bread, boxes of cereal and frozen foods,Amy in Tacomahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05464967059185739727noreply@blogger.com