tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post2190671071161748994..comments2024-03-26T00:14:00.509-07:00Comments on Crunchy Chicken: Radical homemakersUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-55261121239050992932010-09-09T20:59:38.160-07:002010-09-09T20:59:38.160-07:00I don't think our pioneer forefathers and -mot...I don't think our pioneer forefathers and -mothers would consider using actual dishes and growing and cooking our own food particularly radical. Is this concept radical because "progressives" during the women's movement wouldn't have been caught dead doing these things?Lorraine Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10950114673663812192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-15940969206477246312010-09-01T18:13:10.317-07:002010-09-01T18:13:10.317-07:00I've read the comments and GAH! I hope more o...I've read the comments and GAH! I hope more of you will READ and then actually comment on *the book*. It is NOT about returning to the home and focusing on kids as opposed to husband. Its about returning home to a lifestyle that is based on being a unit of production within a community/local based economy. It is about the very radical concept of stepping out of capitalist society. Its a Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12730940231520639971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-69285568663010425362010-08-31T10:52:10.548-07:002010-08-31T10:52:10.548-07:00While I don't agree with the whole post (espec...While I don't agree with the whole post (especially the tone that I infer), I have to say that Chris has a point, that the use of the word "radical" referring to this type of homemaking is possibly just as relative as the use of the word "pioneer" is for Crunchy's back to basics week. For these people and their upbringing, it is a radical choice, or radical lifestyle simplifysimplifyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706451127561850326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-39166681129933347132010-08-29T18:38:15.661-07:002010-08-29T18:38:15.661-07:00Not radical. And I love the statement that you don...Not radical. And I love the statement that you don't have to leave your job to be a homemaker. I do many of these things-and have a FT job. Being all about domesticity with no life outside isn't such a great thing-you kind of lose track of the outside world. I think what some of these articles mean is that (some) women who are educated and politically liberal are choosing a path that Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02736148390428337936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-62640085520744576582010-08-28T15:57:50.754-07:002010-08-28T15:57:50.754-07:00I do think, for a lot of us, these "radical&q...I do think, for a lot of us, these "radical" things seem so normal and everyday, it's easy to scoff - kind of like how last year there was a lot of coverage of EXTREME FRUGALITY that was all sort of pennypinching 101 - "only go out to eat once a week" and stuff like that.<br /><br />But then, I visit family and realize I'm pretty much on alien territory. And then my Rosanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-16563930098903225182010-08-28T14:43:50.597-07:002010-08-28T14:43:50.597-07:00I think we have to examine how the term "home...I think we have to examine how the term "homemaker" has been maligned when we look at a title like "Radical Homemakers". <br /><br />I have a Chinese neighbour who is so PROUD when she says "I am a housewife". It wasn't a choice before she and her husband left China. <br /><br />I think as much as Communism removed the right to choose how you would live from Kerryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12730940231520639971noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-72844141533083772092010-08-28T10:43:19.307-07:002010-08-28T10:43:19.307-07:00I think it's considered "radical" wh...I think it's considered "radical" when people do it who have other choices, who have the choice to fully indulge in our disposable culture... and the people who have other choices tend to be European American and middle- or upper-class. Of course, that stems from the assumption that, given the choice, everyone would eat packaged food, drive everywhere, use lots of disposables, etc. Aydanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07571646997553190627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-29235046048587508462010-08-27T22:49:11.440-07:002010-08-27T22:49:11.440-07:00The article cracked me up when it said, "...a...The article cracked me up when it said, "...and they no longer eat packaged food." I think that was under the caption of the kid w/ the chicken<br /><br />No longer eating packaged food is considered radical?<br /><br />Sheesh.<br />Some of us on here would be considered AMISH then if that's radical.MKDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06772108682326567354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-77883370433549745482010-08-27T20:21:12.134-07:002010-08-27T20:21:12.134-07:00The book does look really interesting, I'm pla...The book does look really interesting, I'm planning on adding it to my reading list.Crunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-50750537170591652112010-08-27T19:58:32.014-07:002010-08-27T19:58:32.014-07:00I just usually hate the implied criticism that &qu...I just usually hate the implied criticism that "these privileged white women will come to their senses one of these days and come back to the fold". That it's a choice than one can make because they don't have "hard" decisions to make. "They" don't have to worry about paying their kids' doctors bills -- because they are eliminating reasons for them.Dea-chanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00140404243041621186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-43615442715644160012010-08-27T12:56:02.373-07:002010-08-27T12:56:02.373-07:00You might be interested in reading the book, there...You might be interested in reading the book, there's a lot more to it than is presented in an article like that. Which to me read slightly patronizing in a supportive kind of way. I believe in this culture we live in our strongest voice is our consumer dollar. It's what feeds the beast. And your paycheck? Pays "the man" more. So what's more radical in this culture, at this Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03680862928722146906noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-63329504425698912632010-08-27T12:17:54.749-07:002010-08-27T12:17:54.749-07:00I think the "radical" in the title of Sh...I think the "radical" in the title of Shannon Hayes' book, which I just finished, makes sense because she's talking about people who organize their lives in direct opposition to capitalism. That is politically radical. To replace the ideologies of capitalism and the American Dream with anything else is considered incredibly deviant. Her book is mostly not a "how to be greenAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05590834468436576998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-83329944353559321562010-08-27T08:16:25.746-07:002010-08-27T08:16:25.746-07:00Chris - I suggested that many people think of doin...Chris - I suggested that many people think of doing these things as hobbies, not that people seriously doing it are hobbyists. For those who are doing all that you mentioned, I would in no way call them hobbyists because they aren't, and because it would be insulting. <br /><br />Much like many would find your overgeneralization of "a culture full of mall-shoppers dying from processed Crunchy Chickenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10612320939936593420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-77770593400425608632010-08-27T07:32:09.007-07:002010-08-27T07:32:09.007-07:00I think you might be radical, but I'm not, lol...I think you might be radical, but I'm not, lol. This is how I was raised.<br /><br />I read the book and enjoyed it, mostly the second half with the stories of people, but I'm simply unwilling and unable to give up my job to be an exclusive homemaker. I need health insurance for my family, and for that I keep my job.<br /><br />As you said it, you don't have to be unemployed in the Farmer's Daughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04993260095409544097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-45980172454803641632010-08-27T07:31:05.347-07:002010-08-27T07:31:05.347-07:00I think anything besides sitting in front of the t...I think anything besides sitting in front of the tv watching American Idle is radical these days, especially when, as this article does, you're talking about middle class or upper white women.<br /><br />I consider us fairly low-key about things, we/I cloth diaper, garden, can, cook from scratch and sew. But we don't have a tv, a dryer or a dishwasher and my co-workers pretty uniformly Jenniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03994844081172979101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-8759060949570926882010-08-27T07:03:43.969-07:002010-08-27T07:03:43.969-07:00http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/intellig...http://blogs.nationalgeographic.com/blogs/intelligenttravel/2010/05/oil-spill-can-spell-disaster-f.html#content<br /><br />These people eat completely off the land, or did until the oil spill. I herd them on NPR and they basically said they almost never shop for anything. Are they radical? Or is it only radical if you are pale, have a college education, and write a book about how radical you areAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-46064497548117777672010-08-27T06:53:02.684-07:002010-08-27T06:53:02.684-07:00Olivia,
I recall the TV series, "The Beverly...Olivia,<br /><br />I recall the TV series, "The Beverly Hillbillies." Many of the gags were about the backwoods hicks stumbling over "modern" conveniences. Lots of gags, lots of ridicule.<br /><br />Media is still willing to portray that juxtaposition - eschewing the "conveniences" for older methods - as laughable.<br /><br />@ GeekGirl, <br /><br />I think you are Brad K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378344866487206569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-44065505525657761742010-08-27T06:27:40.319-07:002010-08-27T06:27:40.319-07:00I am reminded, sometimes several times a day, that...I am reminded, sometimes several times a day, that we do is "radical": we are not following the dictates of mainstream culture/advertising.<br /><br />Among "my people" :) this way of living and questioning what I do is not radical. Among my colleagues, who are a vast majority of society, we are.Bullwinklehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12765320040505378403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-63847324137398448832010-08-27T06:17:44.912-07:002010-08-27T06:17:44.912-07:00I do actually think it is a little radical.
We...I do actually think it is a little radical.<br /><br />We're only about 2 generations removed from this kind of lifestyle here. I'm 29 and most grandmothers (and practically all great grandmothers) know how to can, sew, quilt, garden, cook from scratch, clean a chicken, raise animals, raise children, cut hair, etc--even if they don't actually do it anymore. So, we're talking more megannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-57526657805630021962010-08-27T05:17:28.265-07:002010-08-27T05:17:28.265-07:00Hmmm . . . well as one of the "60's count...Hmmm . . . well as one of the "60's counterculture" survivors, it seems that what goes around comes around. Or sort of. Since I and all my friends and our parents and grandparents and most of our neighbours live this way as a matter of course and necessity - and not as a political statement - I also dislike the word "radical." Ever since I outgrew my youthful need to rebelOliviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12535709771684332389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-89926195109384202132010-08-27T05:00:05.145-07:002010-08-27T05:00:05.145-07:00I have to agree with both meg and simple poppy her...I have to agree with both meg and simple poppy here. As a woman of color, I'm not quite comfortable with the classism and racism issues that are visible in this movement (and others that are close to it).<br /><br />I'm still reading and learning about it, but I do think that it's only considered "radical" because these are upper-middle-class white women.GeekGirlhttp://sustainablegeekgirl.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-69824622905192268632010-08-27T04:14:11.445-07:002010-08-27T04:14:11.445-07:00I had to laugh when I saw that it's "Pion...I had to laugh when I saw that it's "Pioneer Week" here at Crunchy Chicken. With all those rules about how to live a kinda old-fashioned, DIY, less-resource-intensive life for (gasp) a whole week? Ooooh...hang out the laundry! Cook from scratch! How pioneer-y! <br /><br />You seem to be saying that people who do at least that minimum list of stuff year-round are mere hobbyists. You Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18036043116763464418noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-87632672466210600152010-08-27T03:38:16.258-07:002010-08-27T03:38:16.258-07:00Today I think this is radical; in two months it wi...Today I think this is radical; in two months it will likely be less radical.<br /><br />The "norm" is the electronically disabled family - the Ipads/iPods and MP3 players, electronic games and apps that now take the place of communication. The norm is prepackaged prepared food, takeout, or pizza buffet.<br /><br />The norm is highly advertised.<br /><br />There are very few companies Brad K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/18378344866487206569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-39052966836718894502010-08-27T03:06:12.113-07:002010-08-27T03:06:12.113-07:00I haven't yet finished the book ("Radical...I haven't yet finished the book ("Radical Homemakers: reclaiming domesticity from a consumer culture"), but it is largely about rebelling against 'extractive economics' and as the subtitle says, reclaiming domesticity as something to be proud of. It's quite good, especially chapter 3 which delves into the history of 'home economics' from 13th century Europe Jen.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12846471762480579185noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1542806651392353413.post-75834836634046559162010-08-27T01:39:07.556-07:002010-08-27T01:39:07.556-07:00I don't think it's radical; I think it'...I don't think it's radical; I think it's natural. I notice that all the people mentioned in the article were probably making a good a deal of money beforehand and might have been considered upper class - maybe it's radical for them. Which, ugh, leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Like Meg, I'm having some troubles with the way things are presented in some of these movements. I Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com